The symbol of the Swastika and its 12,000-year-old history

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The swastika is a symbol used by of one of the most hated men on Earth, a symbol that represents the slaughter of millions of people and one of the most destructive wars on Earth.  But Adolf Hitler was not the first to use this symbol. In fact, it was used as a powerful symbol thousands of years before him, across many cultures and continents.

For the Hindus and Buddhists in India and other Asian countries, the swastika was an important symbol for many thousands of years and, to this day, the symbol can still be seen in abundance - on temples, buses, taxis, and on the cover of books. It was also used in Ancient Greece and can be found in the remains of the ancient city of Troy, which existed 4,000 years ago. The ancient Druids and the Celts also used the symbol, reflected in many artefacts that have been discovered. It was used by Nordic tribes and even early Christians used the Swastika as one of their symbols, including the Teutonic Knights, a German medieval military order, which became a purely religious Catholic Order. But why is this symbol so important and why did Adolf Hitler decide to use it?

The word ‘swastika’ is a Sanskrit word (‘svasktika’) meaning ‘It is’, ‘Well Being’, ‘Good Existence, and ‘Good Luck’. However, it is also known by different names in different countries - like ‘Wan’ in China, ‘Manji’ in Japan, ‘Fylfot’ in England, ‘Hakenkreuz’ in Germany and ‘Tetraskelion’ or ‘Tetragammadion’ in Greece.

Swastika - Positive and Negative ShapesA Sanskrit scholar P. R. Sarkar in 1979 said that the deeper meaning of the word is ‘Permanent Victory’. He also said that as any symbol it can have positive and negative meaning depending on how it is drawn. So in Hinduism, the right-hand swastika is a symbol of the God Vishnu and the Sun, while the left-hand swastika is a symbol of Kali and Magic. The double meaning of symbols is common in ancient traditions, like for example the symbol of the pentagram (five pointed star), which is viewed as negative when pointing downwards, and positive when pointing upwards.

Mezine SwastikaThe earliest swastika ever found was uncovered in Mezine, Ukraine, carved on an ivory figurine, which dates an incredible 12,000 years, and one of the earliest cultures that are known to have used the Swastika was a Neolithic culture in Southern Europe, in the area that is now Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, known as the Vinca Culture, which dates back around 8,000 years.

In Buddhism, the swastika is a symbol of good fortune, prosperity, abundance and eternity. It is directly related to Buddha and can be found carved on statues on the soles of his feet and on his heart.  It is said that it contains Buddha’s mind.

Lalibela SwastikaOn the walls of the Christian catacombs in Rome, the symbol of the Swastika appears next to the words “ZOTIKO ZOTIKO” which means “Life of Life”. It can also be found on the window openings of the mysterious Lalibela Rock churches of Ethiopia, and in various other churches around the world.


Navaho - SwastikaIn Nordic Myths , Odin is represented passing through space as a whirling disk or swastika looking down through all worlds. In North America, the swastika was used by the Navajos. In Ancient Greece, Pythagoras used the Swastika under the name ‘Tetraktys’ and it was a symbol linking heaven and earth, with the right arm pointing to heaven and its left arm pointing to Earth.

It has been used by the Phoenicians as a symbol of the Sun and it was a sacred symbol used by the priestesses.

Swastica - Phoenicians

The swastika, the Phoenician sun symbol, on the Phoenician Craig-Narget stone in Scotland, and on the robe of a Phoenician high priestess. ( Source)

How and why did so many diverse countries and cultures, across many eras, use the same symbol and apparently with the same meaning?   

It is ironic, and unfortunate, that a symbol of life and eternity that was considered sacred for thousands of years has become a symbol of hatred.

Featured Image: Ancient Roman Mosaics in Villa Romana La Olmeda (Wikipedia)

By John Black

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Many are re-learning and breaking free - even to reclaim the symbols and the positive teachings.

The father of lies tries to corrupt all good things.

Actually, if you do some research, you will find that Hitler was deeply interested in the occult, so to say that their purpose was to turn peoples hearts and minds from the truth of this symbol is incorrect. The association may have had that net result, but realise that the use of the "swastika" was chosen for the power of the symbol, not its disuse or destruction.
I am in no way condoning the atrocities perpetrated during WWII, but please remember that although the war has stopped, the propaganda may not have.
Keep an open mind, and question everything.

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Exactly as you say Darren. And we shouldn't forget that the victors right history, so what we know about the Second World War is not exactly what happened ...

Good point Darren and mr black...Remember Hitler's allies were Japan and Tibetan monks were found dead in Berlin at the end of the war. As above so below, so I consider the war to be a war between two opposing forces not only in this world. In this dimension the black and white of the Tao becomes various shades of grey depending on how fast the symbol whirls. The black and white can not be discerned anymore in the chaos of this whirling.
The woman with the vase on her head is also a symbol that represents a Goddess by many names, Inanna, Kaun Yin, Aquarius..... When the disciples asked Jesus when the new age would come, he told them to watch for a man by the gate holding a water pitcher....but it is not a man...it is a woman, as in the Star tarot. Jesus brought in the Piscean age, the fish, the age of sacrifice, the Pelican stage in alchemy. Inanna the water purifier, will bring in the Aquarian Age. The return of the feminine.....watch out boys.

The old song, "Age of Aquarius" now seems to make some sense.

The Nazis went to India and Asia looking for ancient technology and that's exactly what they came back with from the ancient texts. India recently started looking to the past to start up their own space program.

No. The symbol was used in WWI and WWII the same way it had for thousands of years.

I wonder what would have happened if Hitler had chosen something other than a swatika. A star or a triangle or circle, anything else. We would have the same general negative reaction to a smiley face if Hitler had decided to use it as his symbol. I know quite a few people who think that anything to do with Germany or the German people is bad because Hitler was a German. It's sad to think how one bad person can have such an effect on the world even after they're long gone. 


Small correction,he was Austrian,not German

Adolf Hitler was German.

What idiocy there is online...

Adolph Hitler was Austrian not German.

Small world. So was Adolf Hitler.

Just a respectful and conversational note to everyone's note bout Hitler's nationality. While Hitler was indeed Austrian, but on the other hand, Austrians are a Germanic people. Austria and Germany are both Germanic in culture generally while Austria tends to be more Catholic and what became the German states was more Protestant. But generally speaking, saying Hitler was German isn't totally inaccurate.

Legendary Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal said a while back that the Austrians are a very intelligent people: They make of Beethoven an Austrian and Hitler a German. Recent DNA testing of Hitler's relatives have yielded the curious result that Hitler apparently had Ashkenaz blood in his veins, thus relating Hitler a lot more closely to Simon Wiesenthal than I'm sure both Hitler and Wiesenthal would have liked.

I read several months a ago, that Adolf Hitler’s mother was a Jew. Wasn’t sure how true that was, both it does make some sense considering the ferocity of his vengence of the world’s Jewish population.


Quantum Mechanic

Until 1866 most of what is now S. Germany was part of the Austrian Empire. It is not true that the country of Germany that created itself out of German countries was mostly protestant. It was about half and half, the Catholics were in the south west and the protestants in the north and east; still are, although the Lutheran religion is pretty much stamped out in its heartland because Russia occupied eastern Germany after WW2.
This is the last comment I will ever make as I absolutely loathe and despise those verification things especially now days as they are all circled around. What is that thing outside the box, the arrow in a circle? Is it supposed to be typed as well? There is no circular arrow on a standard key board. You should realize that those verification things just turn people off. You would have many more comments if you got rid of them. And have you decided to be so cool and special that you call the standard submit

Well, yes and no. Saying that he was German would be incorrect, however, saying that he was Germanic would not be incorrect. I apologize if this across as rude, I truly am.

Adolf Hitler thought that because President Wilson did not object to the Genocide committed against Armenian Christians by Turkish Moslems,,that he could get away w Killin all the european Jews.He loved how moslems murdered at will.

I really like this article and the movie attached, I just wish you would use in text citations or show your credentials more. This way it would be easier to pinpoint sources for further reading.

There are hyperlinks throughout the article linking to source information as well as references at the end.

Sketch the Big Dipper and Polaris every six hours and see what you get.

More swastika lore.

Hinduism all over the world once upon a time..

Sawas Dee Korp from Chiangmai!

I've seen image of Athena wearing same dress as the Phoenician priestess. She is actually "Neith" in Egypt. And Neithhotep was the name of the first queen of the First Dynasty Egypt. "Narmer's" wife. And he is portrayed in typical Vedic god style: holding an Indian mace, and ready to use it.

His predecessor The Scorpion King left a macehead...with his image, holding a plow. My oldest Vedic source (1890s) states "Aryan" means "To Plow". I think the root of "Aerate." Later, after they took this technology west, east and north, and became "kings", the Aryan definition took on new meaning of "Royalty".

I suggest the "Was" sceptre is a device to open sluice gates for irrigation. The people that brought the plow to Egypt had learned (not developed locally in northern Mesopotamia, were taught....Hittite goddess "Similia" means Himalaya) to grow rice. That needs a lot of irrigation.....did they teach the Egyptians? That macehead says yes. The Fifth dynasty king Montuhotep is shown holding an ear of corn....Sun Worshiper.

In fact, I totally agree with Kumar's remark: even Tolkien named his hero after a Vedic god....Baggins is the Bhagavata. "The Fortunate One". Did you know: Vedic myth has "rings of power" in them? There are many more obvious connections in his books. Does "Mediterranean" mean "Middle Earth"?
[Latin mediterrāneus, inland : medius, middle; see medhyo- in Indo-European roots + terra, land; see ters- in Indo-European roots.] Indo-Aryan word. Horemheb called himself "Sauron".

Yuya the "foreigner" of the Egyptian 18th dynasty, "Vizier" (Overlord, and Crown Prince) , that all Egyptians had to "bow the knee" to?? He is Yayati, 1400 BC king of Vedic Puru dynasty. And Aye? Ayati, his successor Puru king.

Supposedly Sargon of Akkad was a "Fire Priest" and wore the swastika. Yes, I know: he was supposedly a "Semitic-speaking" king. But it has been shown that between 40-60% of the "Semitic" language derives from the older Indo-Aryan. So, the assertion of Sargon as "first Semitic king" is disputable.

I am thinking a swastika is the image of a Fire Stick ritual...spinning the burning stick. (Polynesians still perform it, now for entertainment) Myself...I wonder if he really was named "Sargon"...because "S(h)ar" meant king...and so did "Gan/Khan/Cain".

His story is intimately tied to Akhenaton even though over 1000 years separate them. Think about that for a moment. If you want to have fun "finding all the Moses" Ich Naton means One God in Indo-Aryan. (Ich=Japanese Ichi=1?)

Sargon/Moses was pulled from river in basket, was given to Akki the Water Drawer...Aquarius the Water Bearer. Originally Opener of the Gate (sluice)?

Akhe Naton was the Hurrian "Nebu Kudurri User"I. in Amarna tablet. Wikipedia says he is Nebuchadrezzer I. Nebu is the "Babylonian" (/Kas Indo-Aryans) "God of the Tablets". Moses. So many "Moses".....a ritual. Did you know that a predecessor king to Nebuchadrezzer I (30 years before) was "Enlil Ahhi Nadin? "Ahhi Nadin". Many mythologists state Enlil is Ea/Ya. One God.

In Shanghai museum, I took photos of "Dai" people dresses (Hilltribes in Yunnan province, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam and Myanmar), covered in swastika designs. They still greet each other with a friendly "Sawas Dee Chao" in Chiangmai, man or woman, and Sawas Dee Ka the feminine version. Here, I think it means more of the "well being" type greeting, or maybe good luck too. "Sabai Dee" means "relaxed/chilled".

Funny thing: "ka" and "ba" in Thailand mean "soul" and "crazy"...in Egypt, "ka" and "ba" mean souls/spirit, but the "Ba" bird flies off at death looking for new "host" to "possess".

Isn't "possessed" a little bit like "crazy"? Actually that is far from the only "coincidences" ...you know the "Djet" column? And the "cobra goddess" Wadjet?

Well, I do not think that is "Osiris' backbone" ...I think it is a Chedi tower. I know it is. Call that a "clue". You find Chedi at Buddhist WAT temples. Cobras guard Buddha, too...."hint". NibHurrereya...know that name? That is Tut...a Hurrian. Indo-Aryan. All easily verified at Wikipedia.

Your expertise in the field of fact vs fiction is amusing. I commend your bravery for making such unrelated yet bold word connections but you need to reexamine your sources before more attention could be given to you.
Baggins is the Bhagavata made my day. Here's a source I would consider:

"Professor Tolkien had a passion for names and words - the origin of the surname 'Baggins' can be traced to the Middle-English surname 'Bagg' mostly found in Sommerset, which means 'money-bag'. The Baggins are very respectable and wealthy hobbits . Bilbo's father Bungo builds Bag End, one of the finest and most luxurious holes in the Four Farthings. 'Baggins' also means 'afternoon tea/snack' , something that Bilbo is very passionate about."
Source: http://once-upon-a-hobbit.blogspot.com/2010/11/history-of-hobbit-in-simp...

The Ancient Slavic peoples and the Lithuanian scripts are much older than Sanskrit, in the Bird Tribe Cultures of Woman, the Swastika 26,000 years ago in its origin, is the image of the motion of Ursa Major (the big dipper). God cults began to tear down the cultures of peace around 4,000 bce, and by 500 bce it was pretty much destroyed, all primordial teachings.

Excellent explanation...thank you so much!! :)

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This comment is absolutely amazing. Thank you for sharing it.

Excellent history lesson...Im glad I decided to go thru the comment column...thank you Farang...Sawas Dee Korp :)

I have a 4.0gpa what he said is 99% correct. Out of this entire thread you placed more facts than all the rest but you are lacking in the knowledge if "whites" in Egypt and how we got to Europe and WHY we went there & how other Cain's seed kept entering my race. It's all very demonic straight from the book of Genesis but you would have to know some herbrew to understand the scriptures properly.

""Funny thing: "ka" and "ba" in Thailand mean "soul" and "crazy"...in Egypt, "ka" and "ba" mean souls/spirit, but the "Ba" bird flies off at death looking for new "host" to "possess".""

Could be now that is understood by it but both mean rejection shit secretion/ments death and Ki is Life or Soul and ba also ment death

like in bank bá Ank bá Anc means kill God and baal means bá All anihilate Creation ... a 8000 year old fatwa by a farao Imhotep concerning Noah and the Arc and Mankind started to execute this commandment till this day by all means. The power and consequenses of absolute pure evil.

Hitler was A Meat-Eater!

Adolf Hitler was NOT a “vegetarian.”

According to Carol Orsag, in Irving Wallace and David Wallechinsky’s The People’s Almanac (1975), Adolf Hitler “…became vegetarian because of stomach problems” rather than out of compassion for animals, and “was criticized for eating pig’s knuckles.” (a popular Geman delicacy, known as “eisbein.”)

In a 1996 article, “Nazis and Animals: Debunking the Myths,” which originally appeared in the Animals’ Agenda, Roberta Kalechofsky of Jews for Animal Rights states that Hitler “had a special fondness for sausages and caviar, and sometimes ham,” as well as “liver dumplings.” Kalechofsky states further that the Nazis experimented on animals as well as humans in the concentration camps:

“The evidence of Nazi experiments on animals is overwhelming. In The Dark Face of Science, author John Vyvyan summed it up correctly: ‘The experiments made on prisoners were many and diverse, but they had one thing in common: all were in continuation of, or complementary to, experiments on animals. In every instance, this antecedent scientific literature is mentioned in the evidence, and at Buchenwald and Auschwitz concentration camps, human and animal experiments were carried out simultaneously as parts of a single programme.’”

Would not a genuine reverence for life — elevating animal rights to the level of human rights, showing animals the level of concern we now show human beings —have had the opposite effect? Compassion for every living creature?

There is no evidence that vegetarianism (for reasons of health or ethics or social justice: global hunger, global warming, the energy, environmental, population, water crises, etc.) will make people saints nor give them Gandhian compassion, but neither is there any evidence that it will make people Nazis.

Dr. Richard Schwartz (author, Judaism and Vegetarianism) Comments on Rynn Berry’s 2004 Book, Hitler: Neither Vegetarian Nor Animal Lover.

“The case for vegetarianism is, in my opinion, unassailable. How can anyone defend an animal-based diet that involves the gratuitous slaughter of billions of animals every year, most of them raised under extremely cruel conditions on “factory farms”?

“How can one defend a diet that has so many devastating effects on human health; that significantly accelerates global climate change, species extinction, soil erosion and depletion, the destruction of tropical rainforests and other valuable habitats; and that requires far more land, water, fuel, and other agricultural resources than plant-based diets? All this at a time when billions of people lack adequate food and clean water.

“Robert Payne, Albert Speer, and other well-known Hitler biographers, mentioned Hitler’s predilection for such non-vegetarian foods as Bavarian sausages, ham, liver, and game.

“European chef, Dione Lucas was an eyewitness to Hitler’s meat-eating. In her Gourmet Cooking School Cookbook (1964), Lucas, drawing on her experiences as a hotel chef in Hamburg during the 1930s, remembered being called upon quite often to prepare Hitler’s favorite dish, which was not a vegetarian one. ‘I do not mean to spoil your appetite for stuffed squab,” she writes, “but you might be interested to know that it was a great favorite with Mr. Hitler, who dined a t the hotel often. Let us not hold that against a fine recipe though.’

“Robert Payne’s The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler, which has been called definitive, scotches the rumor that Hitler might have been a vegetarian…

“If Hitler had been a vegetarian, he would not have banned vegetarian organizations in Germany and the occupied countries; nor would he have failed to urge a meatless diet on the German people as a way of coping with Germany’s World War II food shortage.

“… perhaps people will focus on the important vegetarian-related issues, and on history’s vegetarian humanitarians, such as Tolstoy, George Bernard Shaw, Mahatma Gandhi, Isaac Bashevis Singer, Rav David Cohen (the “Nazir”), and Rav Chaim Maccoby (the ‘Kamenetzer Maggid’).”

In his 1979 book, Aborting America, Dr. Bernard Nathanson (co-founder of NARAL, a physician who presided over some 60,000 abortions before changing sides on the issue) similarly wrote:

“Anti-abortion authors cannot restrain themselves from dragging Adolf Hitler out of the grave. A society that accepts abortion, we are told, is doing what the Nazis did when they killed off the handicapped, the retarded, the gypsies, and the Jews.

“The facts are these. The German Nazis had strict anti-abortion policies–for ‘Aryans.’ Jews were encouraged to abort, as part of Hitler’s racial purity madness…

“Strange that Right-to-Lifers do not make more of the fact that the pioneer in liberal abortion was not Hitler but V.I. Lenin, in 1920. The Soviet Union is not exactly one’s ideal of a humanitarian, life valuing state, either.”

A Nonviolent Philosophy Begins at Breakfast.

Professor Henry Bigelow observed: “There will come a time when the world will look back to modern vivisection (animal experimentation) in the name of science as they do now to burning at the stake in the name of religion.”

If vegetarianism were solely about “fit” or following a peculiar set of “dietary laws,” why would pro-lifers be offended by pro-choice vegetarians and vegans?

Clearly, they’re offended because THEY KNOW vegetarianism involves the animals’ right to life, and thus these pro-choicers appear to value animal life over human life in some circumstances.

Why would they bring up the thoroughly debunked myth that Hitler was a “vegetarian” if not to discredit vegetarianism as a nonviolent philosophy towards humans and animals alike?

Why would they ask in jest if it’s wrong to kill plants, unless it’s understood people go vegetarian because they believe it’s morally wrong to kill animals?

Sometimes it’s necessary to be lighthearted to get the point across to Christians that vegetarianism is not about “dietary laws” but about the animals’ right to life: like Steve Martin in the ’70s asking, “How many polyesters did you have to kill to make that suit?”

And issues like animal experimentation, circuses, fur, etc. have nothing to do with diet, eating, or food, but do involve the animals’ right to life. The issue clearly IS the animals’ right to life.

Leonardo Da Vinci, Count Leo Tolstoy, Mohandas Gandhi, Henry David Thoreau, Susan B. Anthony, George Bernard Shaw, Percy Shelley, Benjamin Franklin, etc. were all vegetarian, and none of them were Jewish!

Adolf Hitler thought Albert Einstein’s scientific discoveries were mere “Jewish science,” and thus not applicable to gentiles. Pro-lifers, relegating animal rights and vegetarianism solely to Judaism are as bigoted as Hitler.

There is a sad irony here, as many liberals likewise think abortion is sectarian: if you’re not born-again, you don’t have to be pro-life.

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Great article.

I first became aware that the Swastika symbol predated the Nazis use of it when I came across a chinese bracelet that was over 150 years old with 'inverted' and 'positive' symbols on each finial. Not something I think anyone would now choose to wear as, as everyone has confirmed, the symbol has now sadly taken on  negative connotations in most peoples' minds.

We also have the Swastika Stone rock carving near us on Ilkley Moor Yorkshire: http://www.stone-circles.org.uk/stone/swastikastone.htm

Thanks for the article!

Sculptures, carvings & artwork inspired by a love of history & nature: www.justbod.co.uk




interesting how its been found all over the world and its in such a long time period

Please separate the Swastika from any wrong doings, it is a symbol far older than this civilisation.

I also ask that the American people look at that which their governments have perpetrated upon the world before they look at other countries such as Germany 70 odd years ago.

I would also like to pose a the question: Why is it that we have forgotten and/or forgiven every atrocity except we are not being given the space to forgive/forget the concentration camps in Poland during WW2. Hmmm.

you ask why it is that we have forgotten or forgiven every atrocity except the ones at Poland during WW II. It is not accurate to say that other atrocities have been forgotten or forgiven. To those who lived during the atrocities committed in various wars, these crimes are never forgotten. The death camps during WW II were of such a size and so many killed that they stand out in history as among the worst known atrocities (Stalin's purges or Mao's/Red Guard purges other well-known examples).

We can forgive the individuals but we should never forget any atrocity. We must learn never to repeat the errors of those who committed such crimes, and yes, wish that all find a way of peace and love and well-being (which is the real meaning of the Sanskrit "Sva" (self) + "Tika" (OK, auspicious, well or good) The swastika has to do with wishing all individuals in the world goodness, blessing from God, and loving them. This is universally understood in India and other nations such as Tibet, etc.

Wonderful to stumble on this website. My interest is in pre-historic cultures: Aurignacian, Gravettian, Solutrean, Magdalenian; and the neolithic and the spread of agriculture. A secondary interest is in the origins of the Indo-Europeans.

Can you imagine how our world would look today if Hitler had used the cross/crucifix symbol instead of the Swastika? I know the latter was chosen for a reason, but his use of it has essentially "ruined it" for latter generations. How many churches and catholic school classrooms would have crosses in them if he'd used that???

Stuart asks, "Can you imagine how our world would look today if Hitler had used the cross / crucifix symbol instead of the Swastika?"

Stephen Knapp writes in his 1992 book, The Universal Path to Enlightenment, that even after Constantine made Christianity the official religion of Rome, philosophical debates continued:

“Nestorius accepted the humanity of Jesus and described Mary as the mother of Jesus rather than the mother of God. The third council of the Church at Ephesus, in 431, condemned the ideas of Nestorius and exiled him to the desert of Egypt in 435, but his theories continued to spread into Persia, India, and on into Central Asia and China.

“Such controversies in the Church continued, and led to different conclusions and the formation of different sects. Even today we can see the almost unlimited variance of Christian sects and churches, each of which has its own ideas as to what is the nature of Christ, what is the soul, what is heaven, and so on. And each one thinking they are better than all of the others.

“Another interesting point regarding pagan influence that may be very surprising to some is that the crucifix was not exclusively a Christian symbol. Prior to Christianity, history shows that the cross was an auspicious and mystical symbol amongst ancient Babylonians, Indians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Druids, and even Laplanders and Scandinavians.

“The crucifix was also known in ancient Mexico, as discovered by the Spanish monks who first went there. They were told that the Son of God, Quetzalcoatl, died on the cross for the sins of mankind. Even Tertullian, as late as 211 AD, wrote that the Christians neither adored nor desired crosses, and criticized the pagans for doing so and for putting a man on the cross as well. For pagans, the cross was a sign of eternity.

“In the first several centuries of Christianity, Jesus was represented as a lamb, or as a shepherd with a lamb over his shoulders. It was not until the 6th synod of Constantinople that it was decided that the symbol of Christianity, which was confirmed by Pope Adrian I, would be represented from that time on as a man crucified on the cross. In fact, the earliest instances of any artwork that illustrates Jesus on the cross can be traced back only to the eight or ninth century. Thus, the Christians adopted the crucifixion as a symbol from the pagans.”

When asked, “Why is the symbol of Christianity the cross?” in 1967, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada replied, his eyes watery and sad:

“When I think of Lord Jesus on the cross…” He shakes his head. “No. That is not a symbol for devotees. Devotees do not want to concentrate on that, on their master’s sufferings. But actually the body of Christ was spiritual. He felt nothing therefore. Like Krishna and Bhishma on the battlefield. When Bhishma’s arrows struck the Lord’s body, they were feeling like kisses. The Lord’s body is never material. It is a great offense to think like that. There is one Aquarian Gospel saying that Christ went to India, I believe.”

Dharmasetu dasa (David Bridges) a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, commented in 1985 as to how morbid the cross is as the symbol of Christianity: “…If he (Jesus) had been hung, you’d see a *noose* out in front of every church!”

My friend and godbrother Raul Pedraza (Bhuta-brit dasa), a disciple of Srila Prabhupada now serving as a lay person or congregational member, disagreed. He said according to the Rosicrucians, the cross is a mystical symbol.

My friend and godbrother Ted Puckett, also a lay person, said that since Raul (Bhuta-brit dasa) was once initiated (ordained) by Srila Prabhupada and now serving in the laity, he should be studying Srila Prabhupada’s books — not the Rosicrucians!

Steven J. Gelberg (Subhananda dasa) describes the bhakti (devotional) movement as "quite open and liberal."

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The christians that I know take the image of Christ on the cross to be a reminder of his personal sacrifice to save them. It is not a negative thing.

I think you should re-read the Bible. Jesus says explicitly that "you should make/worship no symbols of things in heavens, or on earth, or in waters under the earth".

All your churches are just fake pagan cults, worshipping pictures and symbols instead of God.

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I probably should re-read the bible, you're right. For now, I use it more like a reference book, only looking at the parts applicable to things I'm researching at that moment. But currently I'm working my way through the book of Enoch, some of the Vedic texts, and some interesting parts of the Qur'an, so re-reading the Bible will have to wait.

You are absolutely correct, Jesus did say not to worship symbols. Similar injunctions can be found elsewhere in the Bible as well, from what I recall..such as the part where Moses comes down off of Sinai and flips out when he finds some of the Israelites worshiping a golden calf.

So....is the cross a symbol? Certainly. Is the crucifix(the cross with a man on it) an idol? I think it potentially could be, but it isn't. The key word here is "worship". An idol is a symbol that is worshipped directly; standing as proxy for whatever god it represents. In the course of my experiences with various sects of christianity, I never saw anyone actually worshipping the crucifix or the cross. It is ever-present in the imagery of the religion, and in the homes of the believers, but no one worships it, and certainly no one seemed to think it was an avatar of Jesus or anything like that.

I take it from the "your churches" comment that you assume I am a member of a christian church. If so, you are mistaken. I am not particularly religious and am therefore not a member of any religion, "fake pagan cult" or otherwise.

You suggested--and I agreed--that I should re-read the bible. In return I might suggest you snag a dictionary and endeavor to understand the definition of the word "worship". Then attend a few christian services in various places(it's easy, they're not held in secret or anything and unbelievers are welcome) and see if you can find any evidence of anyone actually worshipping the cross or the crucifix.

The Swaztica and the Cross are the same symbol! They both are pre-Christian and both represent the same person. Tammuz who became a deified godhead!
The Catholic Duay and the KJV both inaccurately translated the Latin word "crux" as "cross" into English. Accurate translations put stake, torture-stake, post or tree instead.

The swastika is also found on ancient pottery artifacts of many Northern Native American tribes.

It's used in basketry and maybe pottery, as a symbol of the whirlwind. I haven't studied it, but there's no evidence it's related to the Indo-European uses of that shape.

Our history for the last 5,000 years has been a total lie to benefit the control of humanity by a group who put themselves on a pedestal as gods chosen ones. God is perfection personified and definately would not discriminate. When countries are forced to make laws to believe lies then it just shows the depth that liers will go to protect their lies.

Its not ironic he used this symbol. It was completely on purpose. He was cruel and wanted power but he wasn't dumb. He knew that symbol held ancient power and hoped it would help guarantee his success. Its a symbol for increasing energy. Its also not a coincidence he called his race 'Aryan'. He knew the history and warped it to his needs to support the cause. The original Aryans weren't white.

yea Hitler the most Hated man on earth because Man and women are so Brain Washed by Israel. First let's learn about Hitler.
Also let's do research into the real reason of wanting to keep the Aryan Race safe.
The Swastika is older then Sumeria!

Is it true that mid course WW2 the Nazis shifted from a right to a left handed swastika? If so what prompted them to do so?


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