Deriv; Ancient Celtic dolmen from Poulnabrone, Ireland and carved Egyptian deity Thoth

Thoth’s Storm: New Evidence for Ancient Egyptians in Ireland?

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When ancient Egypt and Ireland are spoken about in the same breath it usually results in the rolling of eyes, polite exits and the sound of murmurs citing pseudo-history and new age babble.
At least, that used to be the case.

Recent discoveries in DNA research have added to already verified archaeological finds to present a scenario that is now more difficult to dismiss.  

The Lia Fáil (Stone of Destiny) atop the Hill of Tara, County Meath, Ireland.

The Lia Fáil (Stone of Destiny) atop the Hill of Tara, County Meath, Ireland. ( CC BY 2.0 )

The Hill of Tara is one of Ireland’s most ancient sacred sites. It is surrounded by many other Neolithic earthworks and tombs and although commonly associated with the Celts, the site pre-dates their arrival in Ireland by thousands of years.

In legend it is the place where the Tuatha De Danann reigned. These were a God-like people who were said to have arrived in Ireland in mysterious ships and had magical powers.

A plate of The Dagda, representing the legendary members of the Tuatha Dé Danann.

A plate of The Dagda, representing the legendary members of the Tuatha Dé Danann. ( Public Domain )

Ritual Burials and Mysterious Bones

During recent and very controversial excavations near Tara a story emerged about a strange skeleton that had been found by workers digging at Lismullin Henge. Some thought it was the remains of a dog, others a badger. But, most curious of all was the claim of some witnesses that the remains were, in fact, those of an ape.

As Con Connor, Arch Druid of Ireland’s Celtic Druid Temple writes, “Why was such a ritual burial in a royal site not cause for focused investigation?”

In her work, A Course of Severe and Arduous Trials , author Lynn Brunet writes that, “Furthermore, the Irish Masonic author, J. A. Penny notes that a skeleton of a Barbary ape had been found at Tara, the mythical center of Ireland and seat of the High King.”

But why would there have been such strange bones buried at this site? These primates are not indigenous to Ireland and the archaeological complex surrounding Tara dates back thousands of years. If bones of an ape had been found at any point, do we have a precedent for such a burial at any other of Ireland’s most ancient sacred places?

In fact we do. During excavations at Eimhain Macha (Navan Fort) in County Armagh, the skull of a Barbary ape was found. When it was carbon dated it was discovered to be roughly 2,500 years old. The question for many archaeologists was how it got to Ireland in the first place, but perhaps a more intriguing enquiry would investigate why.

The Irish-Egyptian Connection

One of the more controversial theories when it comes to the origins of the Irish people is a connection to ancient Egypt. Although there are many Irish legends connecting Tara and Egyptian royalty, these have been impossible to prove.

One of the most intriguing examples of these proposals was the discovery of the skeleton of a 15-year-old boy at The Mound of the Hostages, near Tara, by Dr. Sean O Riordan of Trinity College. Carbon dating showed that the remains were roughly 3,800 years old. A necklace found with the skeleton was made of faience beads and matched similar Egyptian manufacture and design.

The Hill of Tara is an archaeological complex featuring many ancient monuments, such as the ‘Mound of Hostages’, seen above. In tradition Hill of Tara is known as the seat of the High Kings of Ireland.

The Hill of Tara is an archaeological complex featuring many ancient monuments, such as the ‘Mound of Hostages’, seen above. In tradition Hill of Tara is known as the seat of the High Kings of Ireland.  (CC BY-SA 4.0 )

Scotia, Egyptian Royalty

There is also the famous legend of Queen Scotia, an Egyptian princess or queen, depending on which version of the legend you read, who was said to have arrived in Ireland in 1700 BC and was killed by the Tuatha De Danann in a great battle.

Her supposed grave is marked by a giant inscribed stone in County Kerry and its importance has led to local politicians calling for its preservation.

A 15th century depiction of Scota’s voyage from Egypt.

A 15th century depiction of Scota’s voyage from Egypt. ( Public Domain )

An interesting aside is that Scotia’s grave is not far from the island of Skellig Michael, the site of a pre-Christian settlement and a later monastery.

According to the 11th-century  Lebor Gabála É renn (Book of Invasions), Milesius, a great leader of one of Ireland’s invaders lost two of his sons nearby in 1400 BC when a magical storm caused by the Tuatha De Danann submerged their ship. 

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DNA is an excellent source. A similar study compared Minoan DNA (taken from bones) with modern European populations. The highest concentration was in the UK and Ireland! This makes sense as they would trade over huge distances to acquire metal, specifically tin at around 1700BCE, the open quarried sites aeound the med were becoming depleted they had to go further for it, Spain, then Britany, then Ireland and Cornwall.
There are other odd parallels. Minoan kings had a fixed term in office 9 years, as did the Kings in Ireland and the British Isles at this time. A grave stone cover had carved double axis on the inner on the trade route between Cornwall and Scotland. The Druid and Minoan cultures have similarities and a common outlook on life.
The Minoans may have taken the queen there. They traded with the Egyptians. It was an asymmetric relationship, the Minoans went to them, they could not get to the Cyclades Islands.
The first plate is interesting, outstretched arms, that has parallels with the Master of Animals. Noting it is referring to technology, wheels of a cart to move goods
Good read, thanks.
By the Way can someone that knows Gaelic/Welsh look at Linear A. If loan words were transferred into Gaelic, we may be able to decipher an undecipherable language. If the DNA transferred so may the language, we need a primer.

DNA is an excellent source. A similar study compared Minoan DNA (taken from bones) with modern European populations. The highest concentration was in the UK and Ireland! This makes sense as they would trade over huge distances to acquire metal, specifically tin at around 1700BCE, the open quarried sites aeound the med were becoming depleted they had to go further for it, Spain, then Britany, then Ireland and Cornwall.
There are other odd parallels. Minoan kings had a fixed term in office 9 years, as did the Kings in Ireland and the British Isles at this time. A grave stone cover had carved double axis on the inner on the trade route between Cornwall and Scotland. The Druid and Minoan cultures have similarities and a common outlook on life.
The Minoans may have taken the queen there. They traded with the Egyptians. It was an asymmetric relationship, the Minoans went to them, they could not get to the Cyclades Islands.
The first plate is interesting, outstretched arms, that has parallels with the Master of Animals. Noting it is referring to technology, wheels of a cart to move goods
Good read, thanks.
By the Way can someone that knows Gaelic/Welsh look at Linear A. If loan words were transferred into Gaelic, we may be able to decipher an undecipherable language. If the DNA transferred so may the language, we need a primer.

The ancient alphabet of Ogham has fascinated and intrigued for many centuries.
Has it any connection with any other ancient alphabet?

Bobby E I too am fascinated by Ogham writing. If you look up Jankovich Cave, Tatarlaska Disk , Moros River disks and finally have a look at Vinca Writing/Script, you may see some similarities to the basic ogham script.
Following up on Davids article above, my thoughts are that the Pontic peoples who emigrated to Ireland had the original Pontic script that never developed past the Ogham stage, due to an Oral culture taking precedence ie the Druids. Vinca eventually morphed into Sumerian is a possible theory, but when I have seen Ogham in situ it is incredible to think that it is a language at all!!
Cheers Bobby!!

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Hi. Thanks for the comments. You both might be interested in this lecture by Lucy Wyatt which touches upon many of the subjects in my research.

Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3QM6VwDxgk

David Halpin

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