Danube Valley Civilization Artefacts

Is the Danube Valley Civilization script the oldest writing in the world?


The Danube Valley civilization is one of the oldest civilizations known in Europe. It existed from between 5,500 and 3,500 BC in the Balkans and covered a vast area, in what is now Northern Greece to Slovakia (South to North), and Croatia to Romania (West to East).

During the height of the Danube Valley civilization, it played an important role in south-eastern Europe through the development of copper tools, a writing system, advanced architecture, including two storey houses, and the construction of furniture, such as chairs and tables, all of which occurred while most of Europe was in the middle of the Stone Age. They developed skills such as spinning, weaving, leather processing, clothes manufacturing, and manipulated wood, clay and stone and they invented the wheel. They had an economic, religious and social structure.

One of the more intriguing and hotly debated aspects of the Danube Valley civilization is their supposed written language.  While some archaeologists have maintained that the ‘writing’ is actually just a series of geometric figures and symbols, others have maintained that it has the features of a true writing system.  If this theory is correct, it would make the script the oldest written language ever found, predating the Sumerian writings in Mesopotamia, and possibly even the Dispilio Tablet, which has been dated 5260 BC.

Danube Valley Civilization Artefacts

Danube Valley Civilization Artifacts (image source)

Harald Haarmann, a German linguistic and cultural scientist, currently vice-president of the Institute of Archaeomythology, and leading specialist in ancient scripts and ancient languages, firmly supports the view that the Danube script is the oldest writing in the world. The tablets that were found are dated to 5,500 BC, and the glyphs on the tablets, according to Haarmann, are a form of language yet to be deciphered. The symbols, which are also called Vinca symbols, have been found in multiple archaeological sites throughout the Danube Valley areas, inscribed on pottery, figurines, spindles and other clay artifacts.

The Vinca Symbols

The Vinca Symbols (Source: Wikipedia)

Danube Valley Civilisation ArtefactThe implications are huge. It could mean that the Danube Valley Civilization predates all other known civilizations today.  Evidence also comes from thousands of artifacts that have been found, such as the odd-looking figure displayed on the left.  However, the majority of Mesopotamian scholars reject Haarmann’s proposal, suggesting that the symbols on the tablets are just decoration.  This is despite the fact that there are approximately 700 different characters, around the same number of symbols used in Egyptian hieroglyphs. Other scholars even suggested that the Danube Civilization must have copied signs and symbols from the Mesopotamian civilizations, despite the fact that some of the Danube tablets have been found to be older that the Mesopotamian ones.

It appears that this is another case of a theory based on solid research being outright rejected without appropriate consideration. Could this be because it conflicts with the accepted view of which nation holds claim to the ‘first civilization’?  At the very least, Haarmann’s proposal deserves further research and serious analysis in order to confirm whether this is indeed the oldest known written language in the world. 

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By John Black

Related Links

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Funny, as I looked on the pic above with letters, instantly I started to connect old-hungarian abc (known as "rovás") to the new hungarian abc (based on latin). For some of the symbols I can even tell not just the letter, but the standalone meaning of it as well. I also see some ligature and forms of thing in our writing, we call it "összerovás". Our old writing is not too strict, if you would like to shorten the length of script, you can "write letters together", and it's a free-style stuff. There is only a few baseline rules for "összerovás", for example the created mark must be as clear as possible, making others able to read it as well (if you wish). Add into this, that in our language only consonents carry the information. Vowels are only fillings. How do you know it? Here is a word. "Szeretlek" - it means love. If you swap vowels, just a few example: sziritlik, szörötlök, szurutluk, szürütlük. If you say it out loudly, a speaker of my language will understand it in all of these forms. Therefore it's not a surprise, that in texts, scripts written thousands ago, in them the vowels are missing. Good luck for deciphering the secrets of findings without our help. It worked fine while deciphering secrets of sumer language (what you claim is the oldest known written language or so). And I'm not an expert guys, I'm just a regular everyday normal guy.

Oldest siting is Lepenski vir(8000 BC) in which was found proto-Vincan script. Antropologicaly, people who lived there were Cromagnons-Dinarics. Vinca was continuity of Lepenski vir and Starcevo cultures, with same alphabet and same antropogicaly and racialy people, with same agriculture and architecture. Difference between these cultures is that Vinca is "evoluted" Lepenski vir, with a bit modern form of writting, farming, building and with a advance metalurgy. Dinaric Cromagnons originated in the Dinaric Alps and lived throughout the Balkans and central Europe towards east since last ice age. Y-chromose haplogroup of Dinarics is I2 in all its varieties. I2 haplogroup has its peak among the South Slavs- the land in which originated. This shows us that there was not a 7th century migration of Slavs because racialy and antropologicaly and geneticaly same people are living in the Balkans in prehistory and today.
These symbols depicted here from wiki are symbols from both paleolitic protowrittings and neolitic writtings, it means those symbols are from a few mileniums not from the same time. From the latets form of Vincan alphabet which is from some 4000-3000 yrs BC there are 27 identical letters in medieval and modern Serbian alphabet. A little reminder, the oldest known written Slavic language is Serbian language from Greek Macedonia and its called Church-Slavic. This tells us that old Serbian language is same like old Slavic language from which Ruski, Polski, Czeski are born. Pavel Jozef Safarik also noticed and clame this. In the 1980s in Yugoslavia was Paleo-Slavic institute which was investigating Vinca, Lepenski vir and at the time 54 more(today there are over a 100) neolitic and paleolitic sites in Serbia. Their conclusion was that there was no Slavic migrations and that Serbs have linguistic and antropological continuity since prehistory. Institute was imediately closed by the comunist regime. Radivoj Pesic, linguistician, deciphered Vincan script, using Slavic(Serbian) language. He continued his work out broad because Yugoslavia didnt had interes in showing the real history. Etruscan(Raseni) alphabet was deciphered by Svetislav Bilbija and it is the same language and alphabet like Vincan with 2 letters written opposite. Even the Minoan Cretean linear writting were deciphered using the same Slavic(Serbian) language. Today Mario Alinei, European leading linguistician clame that Vincan, Etruscan, Cretean civilisations are Slavic. He is supported by his colleague Tomecoli, Klosov and Nortvedh who are geneticians and linguisticians and who clame evidence both from genetic and linguistic researches.
For all my neighbouring nations, you can clame some ancient roots only by admiting your Serbian roots. Romanians are fake nation, created in 19th century by uniats. Romanians, most of them have Slavic origin which is supported by the cirilic writtings in Slavic language up to the 19th century in Romania. Rab Boziji Vlad Cepes is clearly not some Latin inscription. Bulgars have only the name, while language is clearly Serbian with no knowleadge of gramar. Dacians were the non Roman empire Slavs and Ilirians were Roman empire Slavs, while Thracians were non Greek influenced Slavs. I do not believe those paleolitic and neolitic Dinarics called themselves Serbs, but Nino Belov-biblical Nimrod was tittled in Asyria as the Lord emperor of Serbs-Ur Nina Sar Serburla in 2000 BC. And we all know that Nino Belov started his Arian conquest from Balkans, from the citty of Nisa, modern Nis. Even the swords that were found and that are displayed in Baghdad museum are from some Serbian Morava river valley metalurgy workshop. Serbian name derived from God Serbon-Sun god and Serbona-Moon goddes. Serbian coat of arms also like name is from this deity, and Serbian coat of arm can be tracked since Lepenski vir culture.

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Well, not quite...Serbs were called serves in Roman (and subsequent derived from roman tradition like Venice, etc.) and Byzantine accounts, but not in other. First Serb reference in Roman empire is city Serbonum in modern day city of Gradiška in Serbian republic in 2 AD. First account of Serbs in universally undisputed account is in Frankish "Annales regni francorum" from 822 AD, where they mention Serbs as Sorabos (not serves) for south Serbs as well northern Serbs (still in existence as Luznic Serbs or Sorbs in modern day Germany, occupying part of Bohemia-ancient Bojka, prot Serb land, according to Byzantie emperor Constantinus Porfirogenitus), and those were also written in latin language, same as Roman account but with different name for Serbs, because Francs used Slavic word for Serbs (Sorabos). In other words the name that Serbs use for themselves. In other Slavic accounts like Chronicles of Dalimil (Chech XIV AD) od Nestor's Chronicles (Russian VIII AD), Serbs are called Serbs. You must know that letters V and B were always interchangeable in Roman languages as well in Slavic, so in Spain locals call city of Valencia-Balencia, In west there is Byzantine but in Slavic is "Vitazantija", and in Serbian Cyrilic, sign B is actualy used for letter V and so on. Not just that, in Roman and modern day English, word slave is derived from Slav, (as Slavic people). Two modern countries have names derived from Slav-Slovenija and Slovakia as well as Slavonija region in Croatia and former YugoSLAVIJA and Serbian religion custom SLAVA, although in Slavic languages Slav means something totally different than slave. It derives from old Slavic root: SLOVA- which means word. In Slavic, Slavs are the one who knows how to speak or the ones who knows words-slova, and the rest (in old Slavic times all the rest were it's neighbours Germans) are called Nemci-meaning in Slavic, the ones who are mute (nem-in Slavic). Even today all Slavic people calls Germans Nemci and country of Germany is called Nemačka.
I don't about the Bulgars, but Bulgars are most likely to be settlers from Asia (4-5 AD). Bulgars were slavenized, since Bulgarian language is of Slavic origin and modern Serbs and Bulgars can understand each other if they talk slowly. Almost all Bulgarian Slavic neighbours in Balkans were Serbs, so you do the math who predominantly culturally influenced who, so that Bulgarians forget it's own language (this goes also for "tracian" theory of Bulgarian origin). On the other hand, Serbs were always Slavs, have their ancestry in old Slavic proto country (Luznic Serbs or Sorbs-modern day Germany) and Serbian clerics still learn old Slavic in Religious schools so they are almost only ones who keep old Slavic alive). Furthermore, Serbs are the only ones in Slavic south who take pride in their Slavic heritage as all the other "former" south Slavic nations have new dominant science theory that they derived from ancient Macedonians (modern day Macedonians-of Slavic origin, no relation to ancient Macedonians-Greeks), Croatians (from Germans or, even more ridiculously from Iranians), Montenegrins (from ancient Romans-Diocleans), Bulgars (from Thracians) and Bosniaks (from Iliryans). Needles to say that all of them speak same language as Serbs (apart from Bulgarians and Macedonians, but their language is very similar) and their biggest minority (in all afore mentioned countries is Serbs, apart from Bulgaria), and still they all claim language as their own (as said before apart from Bulgaria), that Serbs "borrowed" ("Romans", "Germans", "Ilyrians" and "ancient Macedinians" claim Slavic language away from Serbs who are only proud of their undoubtfull Slavic heritage? Funny, isn't it?).
As for Vinča culture goes, there is very little possibility that those ancient people have anything to do with modern day Serbs or any modern Balkan nation whatsoever. As for the lettering, few things cross my mind: First, why all scientific circles denounce it as not being a proper writing, when we have clearly signs that resemble modern letters (or Phoenician or Greek) as well as few universally known signs, such as cross, sun, bull (all were letters in ancient writings). How come there is more elaborate signs that are universally known such as svastika? There is signs like this I, II, III, IIII-how come that is not counting? And finally, there is cross with for mirrored letters C (C is S in cyrilic), Serbian coat of arms (even today), that is unlike any other coat of arms in world (see it for yourself). Is that strange or what? And someone said it here before-Vinča culture is just a ancestor of even more old culture-Lepenski Vir culture, also on Danube, and also in Serbia, but that culture is hardly a "civilization". Still, interesting though. Whole Lepenski Vir settlement is now museum covered with Dome, and with magnificent Stone age sculptures on bank of Danube in Serbia.

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